Gosh, I miss him. But if you believe you have played a part in the building and maintenance of your country, nationality or other group effort shall we say, then pride in such success is hardly inappropriate. No? And of course, if you are related to someone of such achievement, well pride in them is also natural. What I don't get is when people take credit for their dog being amazing. Perhaps they think our admiration is for their choice-making? Anyway, just a thought. --A.